Lisa D. Pay

Lisa is currently not accepting new clients.

Lisa is a licensed clinical social worker with 28 years of professional experience including her current position of 17 years as a Professor of Social Work at Anderson University. Lisa directed the Counseling Center at the University for 10 years prior to teaching. Lisa has implemented several Christ based 12 step recovery programs for churches and organizations, such as Celebrate Recovery. She has developed a workshop series for youth that is based on Christian Identity and Worth as understood in the Convergence Model of the Lives Transforming Ministry. She is a sought after speaker for church, college, counseling seminars and youth groups. She teaches the college course Thought Life and Spiritual Growth that has spawned a college based recovery program based on the Cognitive Theory and Christian Principles found in the Freedom Series with Derek Wilder and Dr. David Soper. She is in private practice with Lives Transforming Counseling in Fishers, Indiana.


“It was great, look forward to it again or some form of follow up. I especially enjoyed hearing the presentation from Lisa, as I have heard Derek a few times and the new voice was refreshing to me.”

“I loved Lisa. Her approach was great and she was such a wonderful example of how to react in tough situations. She was so calm, and reassuring.”

Therapy and Life Coaching with Convergence Therapy:

Lisa is a licensed clinical social worker with 28 years of experience in a variety of settings including:

  • domestic violence shelters
  • hospitals (inpatient psychiatric and state hospitals)
  • community mental health centers
  • community and church based recovery programs
  • university counseling centers
  • day treatment programs
  • prisons

Lisa has experience with a wide range of issues including:

  • Depression
  • Anxiety (including Generalized Anxiety, Simple Phobias / Agoraphobia, Panic Disorder, and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)
  • Adolescent / Teen Issues
  • Relationship Problems (Marriage Relationships, Interpersonal Issues, Conflict Resolution, Family Issues, etc.)
  • Stress and Crisis Management
  • Spiritual Formation and Discipleship
  • Separation and Divorce
  • Parenting
  • Problem-Solving
  • Assertiveness Training
  • Sexual Abuse and  Sex Trafficking
  • Addictions (specializing in pornography)
  • Sleep Disturbance
  • Grief and Loss
  • Developmental challenges

Lisa has presented workshops on several topics including:

  • Identity and Worth in a Christ Centered Model
  • Enhancing Relationships Through Spiritual Identity Formation
  • Making the Connection between Pornography and Sex Trafficking
  • The Myth of the Soul Mate
  • The Fall, The Curse and Restoring Sexuality
  • Your Brain on Porn, Neuroplasticity and Romans 12:2:  What the Church Response is Missing
  • Cognitive Theory and Judea-Christian Principles–Convergence Model
  • Human Sexuality
  • Thought Life and Spiritual Growth
  • Social Psychology
  • Human Behavior and The Social Environment

*Lisa accepts Self Pay 

Convergence Therapy focuses on spiritual development by utilizing cognitive theory and spiritual principles to inform one’s interpersonal and professional growth. The  emphasis is on forming our identity apart from outside influences such as performance, opinion of others, entitlement, and past and future circumstances.  Coaching will focus on facilitating self-discovery for personal transformation.

Cognitive restructuring may be useful in facilitating change in an individual’s functioning, but real change requires spiritual transformation. Coaching will present a convergence model of cognitive precepts and Christian spiritual principles that can be utilized in such transformation. A theoretical context will be provided and experiential techniques will be modeled for application.

This particular coaching is of value in preparing persons to work in the areas of social work, family science, sociology, theology, Christian Ministries, youth leadership/ development, health related fields, psychology, and business management. It provides information for personal introspection, healthy decision making, and training in assisting individuals in this important area of life.

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Office location: Suite #206, 14074 Trade Center Drive, Fishers, Indiana 46038

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